|
|
|||||
| From | Message |
| Ingrid 1/17/2008 4:13:14 PM |
 Subject:
Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) ApplicationMessage: We recently bought an oak dining room table which we are in the process of trying to finish/protect. We went with the Antique Danish Oil/varnish in natural. I am not sure now if that was the best choice. After the first coat, applied with a cloth, we let it dry and then went over it with 280 grit sandpaper as it was very rough. We just applied the second coat and now after 24 hours it is again quite rough. My two questions are 1) when it says to "buff" does that mean to make it more rough so the next coat sticks better or does it mean to make it smooth? And 2) what do we do now to make it feel smooth and look uniform. I am wondering if we chose the wrong product and should have gone with a lemon oil or a natural oil. Thank you for any insight that you may have. |
| Neil 1/17/2008 11:07:26 PM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: Did this table come finished??? or is it Bare wood. Did you do a hand sand(100 then 120 then 150)of the bare wood before applying finish. Inbetween coats of finsih you do a light sanding with 320. Antique Danish oil will impart a natural hand rubbed look. 2 coats over bare wood will give a very close to the wood film finish. This finish will give a moderate amount of protection. I prefer to use Antique Paste Varnish(high Protection) or Circa 1850 Bowling Alley Finish(The highest protection) on a table that is going to take alot of abuse |
| Ingrid 1/18/2008 8:59:04 AM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: The table came unfinished. We bought it from Ikea where they recommended just oiling it. We figured we needed more protection than that, yet we wanted a natural look as much as possible and wanted to avoid an obvious urithane look. We only hand sanded it with 280 as it was already quite smooth when we got it. We again used the 280 inbetween the coats. Should we use a 320 at this point, get it very smooth and then apply the Antique Danish oil again? Or would you recommend a different product for the last coat. Is Antique Danish oil ever able to get a smooth finish? Thank you for taking the time to address this issue. |
| Neil 1/18/2008 8:08:40 PM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: Based on what you wanted you selected the right product for the job. When you say not smooth what do mean? Has dust settled in on your finish? Did you not remove the sanding dust when you originally sanded your piece. Was the finish still soft when you tried to sand it. Sanding to 280 shuts down the wood grain so that the finish would have a hard time being absorbed into the wood. That combined with not wiping off the excess perhaps would indicate that you may have left to much finish on the wood and thus slow the curing process. If the finish is not properly dried before sanding that could be where your problem occured. The sanding should also be very lightly done between coats with 320. At this point I would leave it alone for a couple of days and make sure the finish properly dries. I would sand or strip the finish off and start again. Also keep in mind that the best drying conditions are between 70- 75F and less than 50 % humidity. |
| Neil 1/19/2008 11:11:56 PM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: One more point. Personally, I do not even sand bewteen coats of antique danish oil. I lightly pass a medium grade synthetic pad to eliminate dust nubs and any wood fibers that are standing up. The antique Danish oil just dries is a little soft and is harder to sand than varnish. For a second coat in the past I have also done a wet sand with the Danish oil and then wiped off the excess. It looks amazing and dries as smooth as a babies bottom. Good Luck |
| Neil 1/19/2008 11:12:58 PM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: wet sand with 600 grit |
| Kate 2/28/2008 11:12:45 AM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: We have about 600 square feet of oak flooring to refinish. How can I apply the oil on a large surface liek this (because I won't be hand rubbing in 600 square feet.) |
| Neil 2/28/2008 9:33:47 PM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: Yes, I agree on a surface area his large I would not employ this technique. If you are applying the Antique Danish Oil over an existing finish you must do the following. 1. Clean finished surface with TSP, Circa Furniture Cleaner or mineral spirits. 2. Degloss with 320 grit sand paper 3. Then apply Danish oil. Use a lint free aplicator good luck |
| Kate 2/29/2008 11:24:47 AM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: Would a roller be suitable or is there a better applicator I can use? By the way we have Circa 1850 red mahogany Fine wood stain to apply as well. Can I apply that the same way I would apply any other stain? After applying the stain I can apply the Antique Danish oil right? |
| Neil 3/1/2008 9:46:59 PM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: Staining a wide surface area like a floor is a tricky task. I would pick up one of those info booklets in the stores before you attempt this. Yes you may apply the Antique Danish Oil over the Red Mahogany. Let the stain dry for several days before you apply finish. Apply finish with an applicator designed to be used for floors. A roller will not due. |
| Neil 3/1/2008 11:07:08 PM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: FYI Circa Antique Danish Oil comes in approx 10 new wood tone colours.I am not sure if red mahogany is the equivalent to one of the new colours. If they have that colour this might be the way to go. Much easier to stain and finsh with this product. |
| lou 5/28/2008 7:29:21 PM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: How do I remove an oil finish in order to refinish maple with ancestral oil? The finish to be removed is either Danish oil or Tung oil. |
| Neil 5/28/2008 11:18:45 PM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: Circa 1850 Furniture Stripper will make quick work of this finish. |
| Maggie 4/16/2012 3:06:32 PM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: Where can I find details on how to apply this to a new pine floor? Quantity (how many coats)? Method sanding protocol etc...? The directions I can find on this site are surprisingly brief and somewhat incomplete. Is there a pdf available somewhere that I haven't found? If not can you elaborate? I'm having these floors done by someone who has used only polyurethane. |
| Neil 4/16/2012 4:20:49 PM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: These directions say it all. The stripper does the work. No sanding. You may want to use a wood scraper once the urethane is ready to be removed. If you plan to stain the wood afterwards you will have to sand with 150 grit to open the wood grain....good luck Wear Circa 1850 Stripping Gloves and work in a well ventilated area. Place the object to be stripped on a plastic sheet. Pour some stripper into a small foil, metal or glass container. Brush a liberal amount of stripper over one or two square feet of surface. Wait a few minutes for the finish to dissolve. Remove the dissolved finish using a brush or Circa 1850 Maple Scraper. Remove any residue with medium (0) steel wool dipped in stripper. When dry, wash the surface with mineral spirits or Circa 1850 Furniture Stripper. |
| Maggie 4/19/2012 3:05:09 PM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: This is a new pine floor. There is no stripping involved, just a sanding to smooth. |
| Neil 4/19/2012 3:56:34 PM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: Its not a question of sanding to smooth. If your adding colour you must open up the wood grain so that the stan can penetrate. If you are only appling a clear finish it would then be more a situation where you rid the substrate of any roughness. good luck |
| Mark 4/24/2012 12:45:29 PM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: The only real difference between apply the Antique Danish Oil and a Polyurethane is that you should apply a thinner coat of Antique Danish Oil as opposed to a Polyurethane. All the other directions would be similar. |
| Peter 2/11/2013 10:17:08 PM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: I appreciate this forum, (no matter how many years may have passed since a question was first asked)! A comment: It would help, a lot, if the manufacturing company were to provide fuller notes about their product, on the label. For example my question is now answered thanks to Neil and Mark, (above). But everything would have gone more easily, and quickly, had the label included notes about actual drying times, the significance of surface tackiness, and the product''s composition (oil and varnish - with potential ''dry-out'' problems). Knowing composition is also critical in first aid, should a child ingest it. |
| Mark 2/12/2013 6:40:21 AM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: Thank you for your comments. We try to put as much useful information onto each label, within the confines its size. Of course, a good part of the label is governed by regulations. As well, since most product are sold in containers as small as 250mL, the same information must fit onto the smallest container in a font that is legible. |
| Brad Galatiuk 2/15/2013 6:49:46 AM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: I am using tung oil on a natural white spruce mantle piece (it has some nice character grain)but I am not impressed with the resulting coloring. Can I use another color of danish oil (such as oak) over the 3 or four coats that I already applied so as to get a better color? |
| Mark 2/15/2013 8:05:27 AM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: Certainly. You can apply Circa 1850 Antique Danish Oil over your existing finish. |
| Peter Farncombe 2/18/2013 2:35:23 AM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: Thanks for replying Mark, and so quickly. I appreciate that it''s hard to cram lots of information into a small space. However, a number of products use two-sided labels - one corner of which can be lifted and folded back to disclose a second (reverse) side containing more helpful info. Whatever the company decides to do (or not do) in terms of label space generally, I think it''s very important to provide some first aid comments at least naming the types of chemicals used. Parents understandably panic when they discover a child has ingested the product. They need clear, simple information to give a hospital quickly, or to direct their own rescue efforts. Cheers, Peter |
| Mark 2/18/2013 9:07:58 AM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: Every consumer product sold in Canada is regulated by CCCR 2001, which standardizes the information required on a label. Every product that contains an ingredient that is potentially hazardous (either for a person or the environment) must have very specific warnings, and must include FIRST AID informatiion. The information is specific for the hazard, and must be distinguished from the rest of the label by a boxed outline and a contrasting background. If you have difficulty finding or reading the FIRST AID information, you should send your comments to HEALTH CANADA, so that they can propose amendments to these regulations. |
| Peter Farncombe 2/18/2013 7:15:12 PM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: Thanks again, for this information. I''m embarrassed to say that when looking through the company''s earlier responses to others in terms of my own question, I examined the label (I thought carefully!) ... but nevertheless completely missed the first aid 'mineral spirits' reference. I've used these products for a number of years, always with satisfaction. And I certainly appreciate this forum. Cheers, Peter |
| Mark 2/18/2013 7:36:39 PM |
RE: Antique Danish Oil (with varnish) Application Message: Please do not feel embarrassed, and please continue to use this forum and post questions and comments. Your participation is great appreciated. As a company, we are always looking to improve based on the feedback of folks like you. |
Post a reply to this message:
  |