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| Garath 3/18/2005 1:29:29 AM |
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Stain 'n Varnish - Darkness of ColorMessage: I'm currently using Stain n Varnish #774 on maple. I am doing some test pieces to get the technique right and have pre-sanded, put on two coats, and used wire wool between coats. I have noticed that the color is not darkening dramatically. Is there much point continuing to apply additional coats? Will it darken further? I am trying to achieve a rich, dark brown color that isn't too red, for some stair treads I am creating from bare maple. Any thoughts on what combination of products I might use? Thanks, Garath |
| Mark 10/15/2004 11:33:58 AM |
RE: Stain 'n Varnish - Darkness of Color Message: Maple is very tight grained and hard - a difficult wood to stain at best. You should use a very dark colour in order to achieve dark brown. You may have to put on 4 or more coats of Stain'n Varnish to achieve a dark colour. |
| Garath 10/15/2004 11:34:23 AM |
RE: Stain 'n Varnish - Darkness of Color Message: Mark - thanks for the comments. I am not totally set on maple, especially since I am trying to darken it considerably anyway. Would there be a better choice of wood for stairtreads that might take a dark stain better? I have tried #774, #791 and #775, but I am still not getting that rich dark brown I am looking for. The only other dark color I could find was #778, black oak. Any thoughts? Thanks, Garath |
| Mark 10/15/2004 11:34:58 AM |
RE: Stain 'n Varnish - Darkness of Color Message: Red Oak is my favourite. It is nearly as hard as maple, has less expansion-contraction during the seasons, has a gorgeous grain and takes stain beautifully. Besides, that what I did in my house. |
| Garath 10/15/2004 11:35:24 AM |
RE: Stain 'n Varnish - Darkness of Color Message: Mark - I wanted to thank you for the suggestion, I have tried some red oak with a red oak stain and it is perfect. With the addition of the stain the grain looks wonderful and the color shade is just right. Thanks, Garath |
| Mark 10/15/2004 11:35:43 AM |
RE: Stain 'n Varnish - Darkness of Color Message: My pleasure. Good luck with your project. |
| Sean 10/15/2004 11:36:12 AM |
RE: Stain 'n Varnish - Darkness of Color Message: I have an expensive red oak pool table that needs some minor touchup. My question is whether the minnwax stain marker in red oak will do the job or if something else would be a better choice for the job? Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
| Mark 10/15/2004 11:36:31 AM |
RE: Stain 'n Varnish - Darkness of Color Message: You will need to use something that is both stain and varnish. I do not believe the stain marker will do that. However, you could apply a finish on top of the marker. An alternative would be to use Circa 1850 Stain'n Varnish. You may have to mix more that one colour to get a match. |
| Ardeliw 11/26/2006 9:29:59 AM |
RE: Stain 'n Varnish - Darkness of Color Message: is there a way to help decrease odor?? |
| Mark 11/26/2006 12:13:25 PM |
RE: Stain 'n Varnish - Darkness of Color Message: Use this and all solvent-based products in a well ventilated area. |
| Allan 1/21/2007 11:27:10 PM |
RE: Stain 'n Varnish over shelac Message: I want to apply stain'n varnish over a shelac coat. Will this work well? |
| Mark 1/22/2007 7:24:38 AM |
RE: Stain 'n Varnish - Darkness of Color Message: No problem. You can apply almost any finish over shellac. And Stain'n Varnish will adhere to anything, except wax. |
| Don 1/27/2007 11:46:28 AM |
RE: Stain 'n Varnish - Darkness of Color Message: I want to stain some furniture a dark cherry, would I be able to use stain'n varnish without stripping the old finish? |
| Mark 1/27/2007 11:54:41 AM |
RE: Stain 'n Varnish - Darkness of Color Message: Sure. As long as the previous finish is cleaned and deglossed you will be able to change the colour. If the existing colour is light, it may require several coats to achievd a dark cherry colour. Whereas if you strip off the old finish, you will only need one coat of regular stain to achieve the dard colour. |
| Don 1/27/2007 11:57:25 AM |
RE: Stain 'n Varnish - Darkness of Color Message: Thanks Mark, I didn't want to go thru the trouble of stripping the finish off as it is three pieces of furniture. It is a light finish now. |
| Jim 7/23/2007 7:12:08 PM |
RE: Stain 'n Varnish - Darkness of Color Message: I'm going to stain my oak bar rail I've sanded of the old stain I'm using Black Oak 778 gel what is the best method to apply will i need to use a pre stain ? and how fine a sanding is needed to start |
| Neil 7/23/2007 9:42:49 PM |
RE: Stain 'n Varnish - Darkness of Color Message: Clean the surface with Circa 1850 Furniture cleaner or TSP. Sand with 220 grit.Remove dust with a slighly damp cloth. Apply stain V with a lint free cloth. I like Cheese cloth. Apply Stain N V and wipe off excess in the direction of the grain. Build the colour up slowly with each additional coat. It is always a good idea to simulate what you are doing on a scrap piece of wood. Good Luck Neil |
| whitney 7/24/2007 8:28:21 AM |
RE: Stain 'n Varnish - Darkness of Color Message: wondering if stain n varnish will adhere to laminate on sides of kitchen cabinets i have oak cabinets that are laminate (fake wood) on the ends that i want to stain a darker color and want it to be uniform with the solid oak cabinet door and drawer fronts also do you have any places of pics to see the different colors on actual projects? |
| Neil 7/24/2007 10:46:55 PM |
RE: Stain 'n Varnish - Darkness of Color Message: Stain N Varnish can be applied on wood veneer surfaces and most laminates. Test it first. I do not know where you can find actual pictures. Good Luck |
| Drew 9/6/2010 4:33:05 PM |
RE: Stain 'n Varnish - Darkness of Color Message: Just wondering what to use to clean brush etc after using circa1850 Furniture Stripper. Is it water and soap? Paint thinner? Thanks |
| Neil 9/6/2010 6:11:30 PM |
RE: Stain 'n Varnish - Darkness of Color Message: I think you can just use the paint stripper. good luck |
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