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Fred 12/07/2003 01:37:22	Subject: Antique Danish Oil/Varnish Mix Message: I used Circa 1850 Antique Danish Oil ( Green Symble on can - which states it is a oil/varnish mix) Used it on raw wood. Used as per direction on can. Applied liberal amount and rubbed etc. It's been over 24 Hours and it is sticky to the touch in places and dry in others. It was applied at room temp. approx 72 degrees. Why is it sticky to the touch. It was applied and rubbed on equally so it was not that the sticky areas had to much oil/varnish mix left on. How do I get it not to be sticky and uniform (eg not sticky in areas). Yes if I sand and use 400 grit paper it takes the sticky ness out but leaves a dull finish. ( some what whitish). So how is it best to get the applied finish on without it being sticky after 24 hours and not having to use sand paper to try and remove the sticky areas etc. Or is it just a matter of time and it will eventually dry in all areas.
Mark 12/07/2003 09:09:34	RE: Antique Danish Oil/Varnish Mix Message: You state that this is raw wood - is it new wood or was there an existing finish on there that was stripped off? What there ever any wax or polish? Onto what type of wood are you applying the Antique Danish Oil? How many coats have you tried to apply so far?
Fred 12/07/2003 21:30:31	RE: Antique Danish Oil/Varnish Mix Message: It was on new wood ( raw) Fully sanded etc. The type of wood was Oak and Beech Wood . Both Hard woods. But on one I did ( Beech Wood) I applied a Minwax Stain First and let dry for the required time. On one BeechWood that I did not apply stain to the problem was the same . Somewhat sticky in areas. I only applied one coat liberly and wiped off. Maybe I should have let soak for a little longer period and then fully (rubbed off any hint of oil/varnish. In other words fully rubbed surfacr with a new dry cloth. I'm not sure if this is how to apply same or not as can instuction really are not that clear. However today the finish does seem dry in all areas and not that sticky. But it seems that 48 hrs is a little long vs 24. Is this thr answer it takes longer to dry than 24hours and be patient and wait or apply then after soaks in rub off what you can with a new dry cloth. Thanks for any further advise you can give.
Mark 12/08/2003 08:42:59	RE: Antique Danish Oil/Varnish Mix Message: It is very strange and quite unusual for this product to take that long to dry in an environment that is at 72. I would imagine that you left too much of the oil on the wood for the first coat. This is a wiping oil and therefore only a thin coat should be left on the wood after buffing. The can instructions state "Wipe on a liberal coat of Antique Oil using a lint free cloth. Buff evenly with long strokes in the direction of the grain until the oil is absorbed by the wood. If desired apply a second coat after 24 hours." Allow the first coat to completely dry before applying a second coat. I generally buff using the same cloth, but using an area that is not completely saturated in oil so that I am not simply moving the oil around.
Fred 12/08/2003 22:47:20	RE: Antique Danish Oil/Varnish Mix Message: Thanks. That seems to be the trick/ Wipe or buff wood so that no oil is left on . It did finally dry but after I really buffed on a second coat. But the liberally apply somehat got me off track. Yes apply liberally but make sure not oil is left on and completley buffed. I also fond this is slow drying not quick ( eg 1 or 3 hrs.) but 24 for sure.
Mark 12/09/2003 07:03:01	RE: Antique Danish Oil/Varnish Mix Message: Fred, Circa 1850 Antique Danish Oil Finish is a combination of an oil and a varnish. Any finish that contains an oil will be slow drying, unless chemical dryers are added to help speed it up. And even so, it really will not ever be a fast dry. If you are looking for a fast dry finish (2-3 hour recoat), you may want to try Circa 1850 Bowling Alley Polyurethane.