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robert 10/15/2003 12:24:09	Subject: wooden cupboards Message: We are looking to freshen up our kitchen cabinetry. The framework is oak with a golden accent and the doors and drawer faces look like a birch or maple. Over the last twenty years they have seen there share of cleaners, polish, soaps etc and have a build up in spots. There is also some minor wear around a few of the edges and some of the handle areas. I am thinking of using the funiture cleaner as the first step, sanding(steel wool) on the outside of the cupboard doors, applying the Stain'n'varnish to the exterior part of the cupboards and sideboards, then a finish of the Antique Paste varnish to the inside/ outside/ and all exterior surfaces. We don't care to alter the colour we currently have. What are your thoughts on these intentions and what tips might you have. I did receive your product info package, thank you, and if it helps we have a section of cupboards that are being removed and not reused that I can "experiment on". Bottom line, the cabinets need to be freshened, (over 20 doors in total) along with the trim and some sides.
Mark 10/15/2003 13:59:19	RE: wooden cupboards Message: I think you definately have the right idea. Stain'n Varnish will enable you to alter the colour of the facings without the need to either strip or sand off the existing finish or stain. I think that between the label instructions and the Stain'n Varnish colour card you should have all the information in hand to achieve a successful makeover.
robert 10/15/2003 14:28:10	RE: wooden cupboards Message: I'm sure you noticed that I don't want to do the Stain'n'Varnish on the inside side of the cupboard doors. Do you feel that the cleaning and application of the Antique paste varnish will set properly on this side. Note the inside is definitly darker than the outside colouring. Also the inside shelves are particle board and veneer and/ or dressed plywood with a non varnished stain. Can you recommend an oil that will soak in nicely and be food friendly. Thanks for your quick response
Mark 10/15/2003 14:39:41	RE: wooden cupboards Message: Antique Paste Varnish will stick to just about any surface, so that would be perfect for the inside of the doors. I assume that you are not putting food directly onto your shelves. Therefore you can either varnish them with the Antique Paste Varnish, or if you prefer the oiled look Circa 1850 Tung Oil would be the best one to use.
robert 10/16/2003 20:24:07	RE: wooden cupboards Message: Okay, where might I find Stain'n'Varnish in the Barrie area? Every store I have been in has a limited number of your products, but not this one. How do you think two applications of Antique Paste will do compared to one Stain'n'Varnish and one Antique Paste, i.e colouring and durability.Thanks again for your help
Mark 10/17/2003 07:06:32	RE: wooden cupboards Message: Two coats of Stain'n Varnish would give the same protection as one each of Antique Paste Varnish and Stain'n Varnish. Depth of colour will increase with additional coats of Stain'n Varnish. In Toronto area, Rona stores (Lansing & Revy) and Building Box carry Stain'n Varnish. I will find you a local retailer in Barrie for Stain'n Varnish later today.
Mark 10/17/2003 08:35:19	RE: wooden cupboards Message: You can check with with the Home Hardware at 200 Minet. Another option is Irvine Decorating 514 Bayfield Road.
robert 10/18/2003 08:59:41	RE: wooden cupboards Message: Mark, You can take bothe the suppliers off your list. Irvine's does not carry any of your product line and Home Hardware has a limited selection that does not include Stain'n Varnish. I am in Toronto on Tuessday, if I don't find what I need I will contact you then.
robert 10/22/2003 16:07:37	RE: wooden cupboards Message: I was able to find to Stain'n'Varnish in Toronto. I took one of the more heavily worn drawers to use as a test. The old build up of wax and oil needed to be removed with first a cloth then 0000 steel wool and another cloth cleaning, using the furniture cleaner. The surface seemed smooth and tack free. I then used a lint free cloth to rub on the stain'n'varnish. The colouring is good and I plan on an application of the antique paste varnish next. It has been 20 hrs. and the Stain'n' Varnish is not 100% dried yet. Is this normal? I am concerned that maybe I did not wait long enough, (half hour) between the cleaning and the staining. It is my understanding that I should'nt have to neutralize before staining. Any thoughts?
Mark 10/22/2003 16:30:45	RE: wooden cupboards Message: That is certainly not normal, and may be caused by some wax or oil remaining on the surface of the drawer. I would wait until tomorrow and see what transpires. Make sure the drawer is kept in a warm room (20-25C) overnight.
robert 10/22/2003 20:46:08	RE: wooden cupboards Message: Is there a wait time or any neutralizing to do before staining, and we keep our house at 20C. Is it mormal to feel a bit of a drag on the dried varnish?
Mark 10/23/2003 09:57:38	RE: wooden cupboards Message: Are you refering to a wait time between your cleaning with the furniture cleaner and applying a top coat? If that is the case, you simply have to wait for the surface to dry prior to applying the varnish. I am not sure what you mean by drag on the dried varnish. If there is drag, it means the varnish is not dry.
gloria m. 1/07/2004 22:39:55	RE: wooden cupboards Message: what can i do to particle board cupboards in a small kitchen.....can they be painted....
Mark 1/08/2004 10:27:04	RE: wooden cupboards Message: Yes they can be painted. Use a good quality primer (Prime-it Plus) first to seal the surface and provide adhesion for the top coat.
MARY HAYES 3/03/2004 12:57:29	RE: wooden cupboards Message: I have oak cupboard in my kitchen and I would like to restain them in maghony as they are worn and dirty looking as well I am tired of the light oak.Do I have to strip them or can I just do cleaner and steel wool.I have been reading your site and people refer to a Stain'n Varnish will this work as well I am from Newfoundland and not sure if it is even carried here.
Mark 3/03/2004 14:14:11	RE: wooden cupboards Message: If your cupboards have an existing finish (more than likely this is the case) you can either strip off the old finish and stain, or you can use Circa 1850 Stain'n Varnish directly on top of the old finish (after a thorough cleaning and sanding). Circa 1850 Stain'n Varnish is available across Canada, but may have to ordered into your local retailer.
carolyn 3/10/2004 21:25:12	RE: wooden cupboards Message: i have oak cupboard and i want to white wash them i tried the pickling white and it doesn't give me the look that i want i want a country look or i might go mohog.right now they are light oak, do you have any suggestions on what to do for the white wash look
Mark 3/11/2004 13:14:04	RE: wooden cupboards Message: What pickling white did you use? What don't you like about it?
Shar 1/23/2005 19:42:12	RE: wooden cupboards Message: My oak cupboard doors are 11 years old and i have only wiped them with soap and water. I would like to clean them without damaging the finish. Under the sink the color has faded due to water stains. How do I correct this? What would you recommend to clean with? There is also grease on the ones near the stove? These were custom made so the front is real oak. Please reply thanks.
Mark 1/24/2005 06:36:43	RE: wooden cupboards Message: Circa 1850 Furniture Cleaner is the best product to remove grease, grime, etc. without damaging the finish. The colour changes should be made by using the same finish that was originally used. Do you know that is or do you have a tin of it?